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Freeborn61 |
SEEN ANY SNAKES YET THIS SUMMER??? |
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Knock on wood...not at our house yet. But, we've seen several huge Bull snakes on the road. This kind of looks like their head too. Just
sayin'!>>>>>>
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axolotls |
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We have a lotta rattlesnake and gopher snake habitat here. Every year around this time, some kids have to be airlifited to the local trauma center (maybe 5
miles away) for rattler bites. It's inevitable and who are we kidding, unavoidable when kids are involved.
I made unintenionally perfect snake habitat as I am kinda stacking old cinder blocks, crushed concrete, rocks and debris in one area, which is awaiting re-use or disposal. Yeah, I am stupid that way. Oh, we call bull snakes .. gopher snakes out here. I usually have to relocate a dozen or so over the Summer time. |
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sear |
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Don't you guys eat any of them? I would think I would, at least once.
In NY, poison ivy, and rattle snakes don't seem to get North of Poughkeepsie. We get some snakes around here. But I've been here since 2001, and I've never seen a snake bigger than a shoe lace. If I find an 8 foot monster snake out there, I'll invite it to dinner. I've never tried it. But I'm guessing rattlesnake, if marinated & sautéed properly, should be quite good. But I might marinate and broil the first one, for style. That's the kind of guy I am. |
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My Alter Eggo |
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I got to eat rattlesnake once. Those rumors are true that it does taste like chicken. But it was like if a little bit of chicken was wrapped around fish
bones. Those things are all tiny ribs. I wouldn't eat it again. It was too much work for too little meat.
Look, it's been swell, but the swelling's gone down.
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sear |
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dang
Another sear fantasy, dashed to smithereens! Welll MAE, after me seeing your avatar, I'd settle for a towering stack of waffles ... |
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sear |
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Well axol, perhaps I'm just a barbarian.
But when I see a Western movie, w/ cowboy walking past a coiled 6' rattler, what often goes through my mind is: - Dude! There's lunch! - But MAE's right. If I had it once, I might snap out of it. |
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axolotls |
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It's not that really. It's just that they don't fit nicely in a hot dog bun.
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sear |
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Might fit nicely on 8 hot dog buns.
Maybe someday somebody will invent a knife. |
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aew |
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Snakes are good for two things: killin' and makin' hat bands. Coral snakes especially.
Wisdom is self-regenerating. The more you use it the more you have. It's not using it that causes you to run out. ~ BoardFlak
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Grace06 |
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And along came 'Ms friend of wild-life, includes snakes' to the rescue.
If I find an 8 foot monster snake out there, I'll invite it to dinner. sear Not if you're around Ms. wild-life friend! I might feed you but you are not killing a snake here. I had one arguement with one guy about that very issue and I won. That's the kind of gal I am or the 'way I do it. Oh Sixums |
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Laird Shaw |
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Go Grace go!
A woman after my own heart! Arnie lives up to her reputation as a merciless killing machine...
Last Edited By: Laird Shaw 06/25/08 12:10 AM.
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aew |
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You bet I'm Arnie when it comes to snakes! Except for the fact that I scream and find a guy, usually mr. aew, to do the actually killing.
Wisdom is self-regenerating. The more you use it the more you have. It's not using it that causes you to run out. ~ BoardFlak
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Grace06 |
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They play such a vital role on the planet! I would no more wear a snake skin than I would a fur. I have got my share off the road from the blood thirsty
people that like to throw on their brakes and smash them. Its totally uncalled for.
I have got many more turtles, but several snakes. (Last year was the first time I picked one up though and put it in the grassy hill-side.) I have seen them in the yard, but they want less to do with me than I do them. My soul purpose is to keep the drivers from running over them on purpose. We also need our poison ones too for antivenom that saves lifes'! Oh Six |
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aew |
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I would no more wear a snake skin than I would a fur.That's because you were never a boy scout, Grace.
I think that's where mr. aew learned how to make a hat band from a snake skin.
I know how you feel about the importance of all critters. And you know I don't agree with all of them. Coral snakes are killers, and if there is one in my back yard (it's happened twice), he's a goner. And as long as he's a goner anyway, why not make something decorative from him? We don't kill coral snakes for their skins, we kill them because they are dangerous.
Wisdom is self-regenerating. The more you use it the more you have. It's not using it that causes you to run out. ~ BoardFlak
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sear |
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"I might feed you but you are not killing a snake here." Grace So killing a snake is out of the question, but killing a chicken is OK? "Not if you're around Ms. wild-life friend!" Grace "Ms. wild-life"? Cool. After dinner, might you swing from the chandelier or something? |
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aew |
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If Grace is drinking in the morning, chances of her swinging from the chandelier at night are pretty good!
Wisdom is self-regenerating. The more you use it the more you have. It's not using it that causes you to run out. ~ BoardFlak
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sear |
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My lucky day!
Nothing tops off a nice, tasty rattlesnake feast than the hostess swinging majestically from a chandelier. Grace, Is ~5:30PM good for you? Should I bring the ice cream? |
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aew |
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Uh-oh, sear. Did you get stood up?
Wisdom is self-regenerating. The more you use it the more you have. It's not using it that causes you to run out. ~ BoardFlak
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sear |
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Cyber-yes.
Perhaps all the chandeliers were at the cleaners or something. |
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Grace06 |
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OK, you guys have killed me, enough with the swinging from a chandelier. (I never did understand how people equated that with sex?)
OK Ann I understand and know they kill, but they also are the only venom that can save a life too. Surly you have wild life people to take them away so the venom can be used rather than kill them. I also know many people hate snakes, and some call them Satan? ! (Also sorry this is late) I had it ready but had a family emergency in Illinois, and I had to make the trip. So I am just now getting a reply to you.
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic542.htm Another US coral snake is Micruroides euryxanthus (Sonoran or Arizona coral snake); but this is a relatively innocuous snake, and no deaths have been attributed to its bite. Coral snakes tend to be relatively shy creatures, and bites are uncommon. Coral snakes account for fewer than 1% of venomous snakebites in the United States. Most people bitten by coral snakes are handling them intentionally. Most bites occur in the spring or fall. Pathophysiology
Coral snake venoms tend to have significant neurotoxicity, inducing neuromuscular dysfunction. They have little enzymatic activity or necrotic potential compared to most vipers and pit vipers. These venoms tend to be some of the most potent found in snakes, yet the venom yield per animal is less than that of most vipers or pit vipers. Because of the relatively primitive venom delivery apparatus, as many as 60% of those bitten by North American coral snakes are not envenomed.
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Mortality/Morbidity
The spate of recent coral snake bites has emergency doctors sounding an alarm - not about the abundance of the colorful snakes, but about the dearth of antidote. Florida's the coral-snake-bite capital of the United States, with about 45 of the nation's annual 60 bites. The bite of a coral snake packs a venom so toxic it's akin to a cobra's, but with treatment, it's survivable. While there was a time when most every emergency room in South Florida kept the antidote on hand, those days have passed. Drugmaker Wyeth quietly stopped making it three years ago, leaving the state's poison control system to parse out dwindling supplies. It's not an ideal situation, said Dr. Jeffrey Bernstein, medical director for the Florida Poison Information Center in Miami. Coral snake bites are best treated before the onset of symptoms. Bernstein keeps a spreadsheet with the location of every vial of antivenin in the region, and when a call comes in, he routes it by ambulance or air. In the case of the Vero Beach teen, the nearest vials were in Melbourne, at Holmes Regional Medical Center. It took two hours and 15 minutes for their two vials to arrive at the boy's hospital, Indian River Medical Center. But he needed more than two vials, said Glenn Tremml, medical director of emergency services at Indian River. Miami-Dade Fire Rescue's Venom Response unit marshaled 10 more and airlifted them to the boy, an operation that took two and a half hours. Fortunately, the antidote arrived in time, and by Wednesday night, the teen had recovered enough to return home. But Tremml worries about the future. "What antivenin we have left on the shelf will expire in October of 2008. Our only pharmacy Wyeth is not going to make it any more? The only place we will be able to get any is Mexico. (not quite the same but close and seems to work) Yes they are poison but without the antivenum, that 1% bite a year will more than likely be a sure death. Lets just hope the antivenum from Mexico will work
and if needed get here in time.
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